Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

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Kaptain Safe T
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Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » November 9th, 2012, 1:33 pm

The Kaptain here getting ready for another season. The first big storm of the season is approaching and changing this dry pattern we have been in. A light rain / snow mix did start yesterday around 3 in the afternoon with nothing really sticking to the ground. Its been spotty throughout the day. The moisture is much needed nonetheless. At this time today we are starting to get a mix of light snow / hail with strong winds whipping things around impressively. Forecasts are favorable for snow by tomorrow am...snow levels dropping significantly as the cold front moves thru. We will count them as they fall.....I hope to keep an accurate and timely record of snowfall, winds, temp and observed avalanche activity thru the winter.....stay tuned for more as it happens. Thanks for tuning in!

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby tripice351 » November 9th, 2012, 8:05 pm

Welcome back Kaptain. How was AK?

Here's to hoping this storm system is good.. and the storm forecasted next week shows up. :cheers:
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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » November 12th, 2012, 9:29 am

Monday morning 9 am.......6 to 11 inches of new snow from storm....Snowslide Canyon reporting 11 inches with 2.5 SWE...probably a little high....In any case the snow is dense and cover fairly good....Surface hoar visible on lower slopes this morning.....Upper level winds were howling during storm scouring most terrain above treeline on South and SW and NW facing aspects....Inner basin looks loaded from out at craters.
This coming Friday don't miss the new TGR movie featuring AK......AK is always an amazing place to ski....1000 inches last winter.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » November 17th, 2012, 6:55 am

Saturday Nov 17th....Great TGR show last nite KPAC would like to thank everyone for their support....Good news with the Agassiz data logger....the NWS came up yesterday and got us up and going again, thanks to Megan and Eric.....The Lightning this summer was problamatic...you can see real time info off the Peaks weather tab....chance for moisture today but nothing too significant...Stay tuned and thanks again. Still some snow holding on the North facing and shady areas of the mountain..

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 1st, 2012, 5:42 pm

Check the NOAA website for the new "Recreational Forecast for the Sanfrancisco Peaks" ....A cooperative effort has produced this newest product for the local area hoping to make information more accessible and provide good accurate real time data....Thanks to all those who were involved with this project......Now everyone work some magic and bring on the snow......Cheers

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby tripice351 » December 9th, 2012, 9:46 pm

Kaptain.. Looks like some cold temps have arrived, with 88mph+ gusts at the top.. any chance you guys fire up the snow guns this weekend? Looks like a little help is coming this week.. I hope it gets cold enough long enough to get it going. Some actual natural inches would be nice to see as well.

Also.. any northern patches survive from the November snow?
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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 11th, 2012, 6:45 am

The first significant Winter Storm is in the forecast for later this week....There is some snowpack remaining in the shade of the Northern aspects below treeline on the Snowbowl side of the peaks. 2 to 8 inches of faceted old snow with wind slab on top......I haven't seen or heard any reports from the Abineau and North side but suspect the same....Above treeline is pretty much blown off after our 88 mph winds on Sunday....Several trees did blow down, be aware of the widowmakers out there. KPAC is presenting our first Intro to Avalanche session this Wednesday at the Leaf center,....the USFS will be there issuing backcountry permits and Dr. Lovejoy at the helm....come out and support your local Avy Center as things wind up. Think Snow.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby raisingarizona » December 13th, 2012, 5:31 pm

INCOMING!!!! Stoked to see some snow in our forecast. I got two days in Jackson this past weekend, it was deeeeep. Huge natural on the Powder 8's and we saw a skier get caught in a huge and violent looking slide in M&M Chute, it was scary but he was saved by his ABS airbag. Here is a vid of that weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mGht66h ... ag&index=1

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby tripice351 » December 13th, 2012, 8:14 pm

Word RA.. thanks for the stoke. Looks like fun right about now. :)

BJ.. What's the deal with the snowmaking? Why no word of the first flakes being made? I don't think the temperature has been an issue since last weekend (other than probably Tuesday), is the equipment not ready? Or are you not announcing it because you're worried about idiot protesters chaining themselves to the equipment? Sorry to pester, I know you guys deal with all the questions leading up to opening day every year..
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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby ricorides » December 14th, 2012, 9:34 am

Trip,
Suffice to say, construction workers have been putting the finishing touches on the booster station and the pumphouse #1. The big thing has been getting APS to hook up electricity to the booster and pumphouse, which happened this week. After testing both, and starting pumphouse #1, it will take 2 (yes, 2!) days to fill the pipes and move the water uphill.

Patience grasshopper. Patience.

There's 8-10" new today, loads more on the way. There could be some hiking inbounds very soon, if it's not an issue with security. Kaptain, can you add anything about hiking before opening day?

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby tripice351 » December 14th, 2012, 9:47 am

Rico.. you know asking for patience this time of year is asking a lot. :)

Thank you for real, factual information. It just rubs me (and I imagine many others) the wrong way when they kept saying the high temps were the problem, when in fact it could be 10 below and there would be no snowmaking yet.
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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby nmopiv » December 14th, 2012, 10:15 am

Does anyone know if the gates are going to be open for the weekend? I would imagine if they're putting final touches on the snow making equipment they would probably want everything to be locked up. Thanks guys.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby raisingarizona » December 14th, 2012, 10:47 am

Don't count on it.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby ricorides » December 14th, 2012, 2:50 pm

Actually, since the business office is open for pass pictures and pick up, the gate should be open. At least on Saturday.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby To_Ride_or_Tele? » December 14th, 2012, 6:40 pm

Excellent about the pass office being open tomorrow. I hope the kind folks at Snowbowl are down with a few of us hiking for a quick run. I really need to get a day in, Im going crazy!

Kaptain,
If one was to hike tomorrow, is there any special etiquette we need to know so we are not interfering with your operations?

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 14th, 2012, 7:21 pm

12-14-12 Finally Winter is starting to happen...good to see all the posts....OK here it is......12" at 9500' to 16" at 10800' new out of this cycle ......More snow forecasted to come after midnite tonight.
Snowmaking has not started yet as stated earlier by Rico....Things are about to happen soon.....putting in a system like this is very complex and requires a lot things to happen before you just turn it on.....The good news is the gate will be open on Saturday.....the Retail and Guest services will be open....not sure about Sunday....Snowbowl will not plow Sunday am if it snows. Can't say for sure but will try to get it on the Arizonasnowbowl.com website under snow report and road conditions. Snowbowl is having all skiers, hikers, snowshoers and whoever park in LOT #6..There is a new information station in place with the info you need to make your visit more enjoyable. Closures of certain runs or areas will be posted when necessary. At this time Bowl side is open to top. Ridge from top to Grand junction including Blackjack, which skied farily good today,Volcano, and Logjam. The pond area at Meadows is still closed as the final touches are happening. The snowpack is fairly dense with some wind effect up high but surprisingly good coverage......There is no base under this new snow in most places so be light on your gear.The waterbars are still out and can be a bit tricky so use caution. With another possible foot in the forecast things will improve.... Treat this preseason skiing as backcountry and use your powers of observation to stay safe. We want to make things happen as much as you want us to so keep the snow coming and ski safely...Ski ya on the hill.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby ricorides » December 15th, 2012, 11:12 am

Just got back from picking up my pass at the Hart Prairie Lodge.
The road is open and decently plowed, though a bit slick. Hwy 180 is plowed and a bit slick also.
It was dumping up there.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby topbud » December 15th, 2012, 11:33 am

I, also, just got my pass picture taken. Snowbowl road was slick, but plowed. Made for a fun drive. Time didn't allow me to play up there. It was dumping and looking really good. most of the main roads in town are fine, it's all the side roads that aren't well maintained. Hoping for a great season.
Tony

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 16th, 2012, 9:16 am

12-16-12 Nice little cycle to get things going, total snowfall last 48 hrs 23 inches at 9500 and 31 inches at 10800'. More snow in the forecast for Tuesday Wednesday.....The Snowcats are out on the hill so please give them plenty of room. Stay tuned for info about ASB status on the Arizonasnowbowl.com website

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 25th, 2012, 6:26 am

12-25-12 Merry White Christmas. 3 to 4 inches fell in the last 24 hrs, mostly the afternoon of the 24th. Midway base at 29" North Westerly Wind driven Graupel and other forms of snow made a big difference in the skiing. Good early season conditions most everywhere except above treeline. Another system headed our way on Wednesday. Chill factor made for a busy day with unpreparred skiers and riders. Dress for success.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 26th, 2012, 6:36 am

12-26-12 Strong winds yesterday in excess of 100mph early predawn hours....finally mixed out by 12:30 am....snowpack stripped off and scoured above treeline on NW facing slopes. Up slope winds all day created huge drifts on lee side of some slopes and 3 inches of fresh pinecones with several large treed blown down. Looking forward to more snow....Rmember its good skiing or no skiing.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 27th, 2012, 10:48 am

12-27-12 4 to 6 new with more in the forecast....very light density and light winds ...undisturbed settled base at 10800 is 34 and climbing...Things are looking good.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 28th, 2012, 8:32 am

12-28-12 Snow on and off all day with white out conditions at times......another 6 inches at 10800 feet with strong wind at treeline. Base densified to an undisturbed 36 inches at Midway. Conditions out of bounds are thin....Had first SAR mission yesterday on Southside / Seven Meadows.....If you go under that rope you are on your own be preparred.....Tread gently out there its bony.

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 30th, 2012, 6:34 am

12-30-12 Closing in on the last daze of the year...the snow is squeeky cold with overnite temps down in the single digits. Conditions are good with amazing coverage for 32 inches. The Beacon check is up and going at the top gate and we are looking for a good place for beacon basin as well. More snow in the forecast with cold temps....Think snow

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Re: Winter Weather Observations ASB 2012-2013

Postby Kaptain Safe T » December 31st, 2012, 6:27 am

12-31-12 One last cycle for the year with 8 " at 10800 in the last 24 hrs 37" udisturbed settled base. Super lite stellars and dendrites falling last nite.....should be a great last day of 2012. Happy New Year.


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